The elusive Comex Double Red Sea Dweller

Nov 24, 2009,04:18 AM
 

Sometimes patience is important for a collector….

 

After declining and missing Comex watches for the past ten years, my day also had to come...

 

So last tuesday, I took a short car trip to meet an ex Comex diver....

 

 

This gentleman entered the Comex in early 1970. He told me that the same day he was hired, he was asked to dive at -80m to show if he was "made for the job"....

 

In september of the same year, he participated with two other divers to the Janus II experiment: he worked during 8 days at -255m to fix a pipeline, wearing an Omega Ploprof that "never really worked well"....;-)

 

This experiment was a great success and demonstrated the ability of man to work at such depth.

 

In 1971, he became Chevalier de l'Ordre National du Mérite for his achievements.

 

 

The same year, he was given by Comex one of the 10 Sea Dweller that had just been delivered by Rolex. The existence of these watches is only known by a handful of collectors at this point and most people think that the first Rolex delivered to Comex were the batch of 5513's sold in 1972.

 

The Sea Dweller in question did not leave the diver's wrist for the next 20 years: he was wearing it when diving in the North Sea, Malta, Labrador, Congo, Gabon, etc...

 

 

In the early 1990's, he stopped wearing it because he had just been offered a quartz Breitling watch. Since his house had been robbed twice, his wife decided to hide the Rolex in a teapot they never used. Then they both forgot about the watch for almost 20 years...until last week...

 

Luckily enough, he told a friend of mine about the lost watch that he had just found...and now the watch has a new home !

 

So here’s what a Comex watch looks like after having being abused for many years and worn from the frozen deep of the sea to the burning desert of Africa !

 

 

The Comex lighter came with the watch as a gift !

 

The watch still has its original Double Red mk2 dial (this was confirmed to me by the first and only owner before me) and the original handset. The dial has turned to a crazy brown color and the tritium indexes have such a nice patina !

 

 

 

 

I had never handled one of these early Comex DRSD's before, but I know that two other watches of the same delivery batch have already "surfaced".....so more informations to follow !

 

An early delivery of a handful of 1665's to Comex is not well documented but of course makes pretty much sense, as this model was developed for the company by Rolex in 1967; it would have been surprising that Comex did not ask for any SD before 1977, when the famous batch of 1665's with logo dial and 2XXX issues number was delivered. Even if all the divers did not need 610m watches, the 255m limit was already reached since 1970... hence the need of a handful of SD's in the early 1970's ! 

 

Acknowledgements: many thanks to Marcello Pisani for his knowledge about Comex watches !

 



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wow! my jaw dropped..

 
 By: a.ler : November 24th, 2009-04:51
the before and after is a world of difference and not to mention the immaculate provenance from the original COMEX diver, your patience paid off handsomely. more than congratulations! Great Job!

Mine too...

 
 By: DrStrong : November 25th, 2009-00:37
when I saw the watch for the first time ! Cheers Jeff

Amazing story and watch

 
 By: Dje : November 24th, 2009-05:10
Jeff what a great story and what an amazing watch! That's what is called an old barn find for a car. I know some retired divers. I am going to call them! Cheers Dje

It sounds like a treasure hunt !

 
 By: DrStrong : November 25th, 2009-00:38
Good luck !

Congratulations, Jeff!

 
 By: respo : November 24th, 2009-05:41
Patience really did pay off for you. I cannot imagine a better way to get such a historical piece like this. I love that it was kept in a teapot for 20 years. Hmmmm.... that gives me some ideas. LOL. Getting this from one of the COMEX divers, and having t... 

It won't leave my wrist...

 
 By: DrStrong : November 25th, 2009-00:39
except for the mandatory service....20 years without running !

Service???

 
 By: respo : November 25th, 2009-06:36
20 years without running should be no problem. It is a Rolex after all. LOL. I hope it is not gone for long, and I am delighted to hear it is attached to your wrist. respo

It's definitely running fine !

 
 By: DrStrong : November 25th, 2009-09:18
and it's quite amazing for a watch that has suffered so much and then has been forgotten for 20 years. But that's why we like Rolex, or ? I will only have it serviced because it would damage the movement to keep it running that way I guess... And I also h... 

ooooooo

 
 By: cisco : November 24th, 2009-06:04
aaaa, euuuuuh, hmmmmm I am very sorry Jeff, I just can't think correctly any more. Best regards A completely stunned Francois

I can understand that feeling ;-) [nt]

 
 By: DrStrong : November 25th, 2009-00:45
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Wow. A great story and watch.

 
 By: SJX : November 24th, 2009-06:06
Thanks for sharing Jeff. Does Rolex authenticate or verify such watches? - SJX

To me...

 
 By: DrStrong : November 25th, 2009-01:59
...there is not much to authentificate here. But I can try to learn more from Rolex about these early deliveries in general. Cheers Jeff

This is one unbelievable story

 
 By: Ares501 - Mr Green : November 24th, 2009-06:10
I can't imagine the whirl of emotions you had after your friend told you about opportunity to have such rare beast and after becoming new owner Great thank you for sharing damian

Yes Damian, it was very exciting ! [nt]

 
 By: DrStrong : November 25th, 2009-00:50
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Great shoot...Great...

 
 By: kbc.2222 : November 24th, 2009-06:11
Great shoot...Great watch...Great story... Everything Goooood!!! Thanks for sharing... Best Chung

Thanks Chung !

 
 By: DrStrong : November 25th, 2009-00:51

Wow,wow ,wow!

 
 By: fernando : November 24th, 2009-07:20
A great find and with such provenance! I can see the grin on your face from here Thanks for sharing a wonderful story. cheers fernando

There is a big smile on my face Fernando !

 
 By: DrStrong : November 25th, 2009-02:00
right on spot ! Cheers Jeff

Patience always pays

 
 By: Pimousse : November 24th, 2009-08:25
In addition the story is beautiful. Congratulations Mr Strong 

Good to see you here !

 
 By: DrStrong : November 25th, 2009-00:51
welcome on board ! Cheers Jeff

WOOOOWWWW Jeff....biggest congrats.....

 
 By: kaiserfranz : November 24th, 2009-08:45
.....what an amazing catch !!! Wonderful watch with an unbelievable nice provenance........BREATHTAKING !! Enjoy this rarity every second. Best Matthias

Yes Matthias....

 
 By: DrStrong : November 25th, 2009-00:52
...I'm sure you appreciate the brown dial as much as I do ;-) Cheers Jeff

Thanks for sharing ::))

 
 By: MiniCooper : November 24th, 2009-10:47

It's my pleasure ! [nt]

 
 By: DrStrong : November 25th, 2009-00:53
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NICE story...

 
 By: ocwatching : November 24th, 2009-11:31
love to have a beer with that diver...

I hope to meet him again...

 
 By: DrStrong : November 25th, 2009-00:53
...and ask him another bunch of questions ! Cheers Jeff

Great story Jeff!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
 By: bas.nl : November 24th, 2009-12:02
And what a great watch, I love the coler of those tropic MK2 dials. Enjoy!!!!!! Cheers, Bas.nl

Yes, those Mk2 dials are cool....

 
 By: DrStrong : November 25th, 2009-00:58
....and when you know the history of the first 1665's - which were really experimental watches - you think that maybe there are some even earlier Comex SD's somewhere ! Cheers Jeff

Great post Dr.Strong!

 
 By: DRMW : November 24th, 2009-12:19
Very interesting story Jeff! Thanks for sharing! -MW

Thanks ! [nt]

 
 By: DrStrong : November 25th, 2009-00:58
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Incredible Provinance Jeff!

 
 By: NYCarrera : November 24th, 2009-12:32
Congrats on a beautiful piece. Godspeed A

Goodonyou Jeff ;-)

 
 By: hans_jorgen_1968 : November 24th, 2009-12:48
Congratulations Jeff ! Seems like your long patience finally gave some fruit, and what a Comex. I have only seen one other 1665 DRSD Comex and that was on an auction. But what I am searching and looking after is in many cases more the history / provenance... 

There are also later Comex DRSD's...

 
 By: DrStrong : November 25th, 2009-01:07
but commemorative watches given to famous divers after depth records. They have mk4 dials and no Comex issue numbers. (Photos: Daniel Bourne) Cheers Jeff This message has been edited by DrStrong on 2009-11-25 01:36:56...  

Great find!!

 
 By: Philipps : November 24th, 2009-13:51
Respect for this discovery! Enjoy it to the fullest, rgrds.P

Thanks my friend !

 
 By: DrStrong : November 25th, 2009-01:08
a brown dial Comex.....would you have imagined that ? Cheers Jeff

Great, Jeff!!

 
 By: E.J. : November 24th, 2009-14:24
what a nice post!. I´m really happy because you found this Rare Bird. Thanks for the interesting and great reading and big congrats! Best Emilio

Thanks Emilio ! [nt]

 
 By: DrStrong : November 25th, 2009-01:56
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Congratulations.

 
 By: BDLJ : November 24th, 2009-15:11
Also fantastic to see one of these that has been used and used hard.

Yes if the watch could speak....

 
 By: DrStrong : November 25th, 2009-01:50
...it also would have amazing stories to tell ! Cheers Jeff

wonderful story+wonderful watch

 
 By: brokenwrist : November 24th, 2009-17:16
the watch is obviously beautiful and a rare find. but its the story that really makes it special. as always, wear in the very best of health kevin

Thanks Kevin, yes an amazing story ! [nt]

 
 By: DrStrong : November 25th, 2009-01:48
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Can't believe it!

 
 By: amanico : November 25th, 2009-00:13
Wow, Jeff...That's crazy! I didn't know that the DRSD may come as a Comex Watch, I always thought it was a jocke! The Deep Brown dial and the patina of the indexes are pure madness, and in this context, the red writings are nothing else than the cherry on... 

There is a very small issue number

 
 By: DrStrong : November 25th, 2009-01:09
really tiny, like on the early 5513 Comex. Cheers Jeff

It's a stunner

 
 By: eparisini : November 25th, 2009-02:03
I love it, and it has a great history!!!

It definitly is !

 
 By: DrStrong : November 25th, 2009-09:19
thanks !

I Hate You

 
 By: eparisini : November 26th, 2009-01:33
my friend... ;-)

Wow what a story - the real deal in so many ways

 
 By: Oztimelord : November 25th, 2009-02:30
Jeff, You lucky, lucky guy! I just love reading these stories. The history is worth even more than the watch. That is why I love vintage! Enjoy Rene

Yes Rene....

 
 By: DrStrong : November 25th, 2009-09:13
that's exactly what makes these toolwatches so exciting ! And I hope to get more informations and pictures from the diver. Cheers Jeff

I'm Jealous !!!!!!

 
 By: Addict : November 25th, 2009-06:53
What a beauty !!!!! Finnaly it happened , straight from the diver owner All the best Jay

No you're not !

 
 By: DrStrong : November 25th, 2009-09:15
I know that you're happy for your old friend ;-) By the way, how about a post about your single red SD sometime ? Or your stunning brown 5513 ? Cheers Jeff

fantastic

 
 By: fifty fathoms : November 25th, 2009-12:19
Dr. Strong I think this rolex waked up to find you ! great story, it gives me confidence that my tornek rayville will find me some days ;-) keep on surfing Stephan

Something like that Stephan...

 
 By: DrStrong : November 25th, 2009-12:51
as you cannot imagine how many coincidences it took for me and the watch to find each other ! Cheers Jeff

This confirms …

 
 By: AndrewD : November 25th, 2009-13:55
… how protective the antioxidants in tea are! And the tannins obviously seeped into that dial. J Wonderful colours and a lovely looking watch. All topped off by a fantastic story. Great to see your new watch; congratulations, Jeff. Andrew

Yes Andrew...

 
 By: DrStrong : November 26th, 2009-12:45
all the Mk2 DRSD dials turn to brown....I love paint issues ;-) Cheers Jeff

I almost fell asleep sitting behind ...

 
 By: bimbeano : November 25th, 2009-14:32
... my computer untill i read your story ! My congrats too Jeff, a truly remarkable find, something you probably never even dreamed off ! PS. Don't leave it in YOUR tea-pot the comig 20 years Filip

Obviously

 
 By: DrStrong : November 26th, 2009-12:47
watches are not important for Comex divers....can you imagine that the guy litteraly threw the watch at me when we had a deal ? Amazing people.... Cheers Jeff

Thanks Julian ! [nt]

 
 By: DrStrong : November 26th, 2009-12:47
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Thanks Claude

 
 By: DrStrong : November 28th, 2009-04:28
Fifty Fathoms, Submariner,....the same human challenge ! Cheers Jeff

Fantastic piece of history

 
 By: Asimut : November 27th, 2009-04:51
Congrats on a great find and thanks for sharing this rarity with us! HAGWE Asi

Thanks Asi, my pleasure to share it with you ! [nt]

 
 By: DrStrong : November 28th, 2009-04:28
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Ten watches have been delivered for testing, how many have survived ?

 
 By: DrStrong : November 28th, 2009-04:30
I was lucky to find one ! Cheers Jeff

Congratulations, Jeff!

 
 By: dxboon : November 28th, 2009-00:30
That's an amazing find. The watch on its own is already an exceedingly attractive piece, but coupled with its provenance becomes even more desirable. I'm really happy for you! Thanks for sharing your good fortune! May you enjoy the watch for many years to... 

Yes, the best of both worlds ! [nt]

 
 By: DrStrong : November 28th, 2009-04:31
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The best and rarest Jeff

 
 By: rebec1 : November 28th, 2009-03:17
I am not sure that we fully realize the importance of the ten 1665 DRSD along with some 5513 from the first ever Rolex batch delivered to Comex in january 1971. This batch started it all. Maybe one day collectors will start to understand the importance of... 

Yes Eric....

 
 By: DrStrong : November 28th, 2009-04:37
...I'm also a big fan of the first batch: no box, no papers, no logo dial....but the only 200 Rolex Comex that have for sure all been tested in extreme conditions during the fascinating experimental time of the pioneers.... Thanks again for the kind words... 

Many congrats, Jeff....

 
 By: MdV : November 30th, 2009-13:47
....what a delicious story...but moreover.....what a delicious watch. Indeed a treasure but also of utmost importance....! Thanks for sharing. Best, Mark

UN GRAND BRAVO

 
 By: quentin : December 12th, 2009-05:14
I was just flooding in this beautiful place when I sw that ! The watch is just a dream, the provenance is incredible...! I respect a lot this sort of catch, not just a money story ! Enjoy your dreamcomexwatch Jeff ! Quentin

it's always a pleasure to read this topic.

 
 By: gensiulia : August 19th, 2013-12:46
stupendo.

Grazie mille !

 
 By: DrStrong : August 19th, 2013-22:52
...  

Wow, what a find!

 
 By: dundev : August 19th, 2013-18:56
Congratulation!

AMAZING POST!! what a catch Jeff!! Very well done, and a great history...

 
 By: DivingT : August 19th, 2013-23:55
...you've captured with this watch. It is absolutely beautiful. thankyou for sharing this with us!! Cheers Tony

Four years ago now...

 
 By: DrStrong : August 20th, 2013-03:23
.....it seems like ages ago...

The watch and this post is awesome - So much depth and knowledge

 
 By: Bill : August 20th, 2013-18:50
I was refreshing my screen when I saw this "New" post. I love it when they surface. There is so much information on the site that we need to share. Best Bill

I definitely...

 
 By: DrStrong : August 20th, 2013-23:54
...have to write something someday about the second watch I got from the same source....;-)

Agree! You must! [nt]

 
 By: gensiulia : August 23rd, 2013-07:02

Rolex Comex Double Red Sea-Dweller - wow

 
 By: Bill : October 30th, 2013-13:11
The Comex DRSD is a real beast. This divers really had a wild life. This report is always a pleasure to read and enjoy. And we lern something new everyday. Many thanks Bill

Thanks Bill

 
 By: DrStrong : October 30th, 2013-23:01
...the watch with Rolex confirmation letter and more pictures from the diver... ...  

What a beautiful and interesting timepiece Jeff! and ...

 
 By: Subexplorer : October 31st, 2013-09:04
... with an awesome story and provenance!! I enjoyed so much your presentation, and read it with great interest. I´m happy for you with such an extraordinary finding, and I wish you´ll keep enjoying wearing it so much. Thank you so much for sharing! Cor... 

Wow fantastic [nt]

 
 By: lhanddds : November 3rd, 2013-06:10

More than 4 years late .. Hopefully not too late ..

 
 By: hs111 : November 3rd, 2013-06:22
Let me just say: what a piece, what a man and what a story !! - simply AWESOME and Captivating Thank you - also today again, when coincidently browsed the forum and stumbled on the link.. Best, hs PS: being a humble rolex newbie, who has acculated several...