A Review of the pre-Daytona ref. 6238

Jan 16, 2012,05:03 AM
 

Some of you know how much I like vintage Rolex chronographs; they are probably my favourite watches. I love their look, their size – perfect for my wrist – and their history. I have just added to my collection a very desirable pre-Daytona and I want to share with some informations about this watch.


 

The Rolex chronograph ref. 6238 was produced from the early 1960’s to 1967. It has a more modern look than the previous chronographs issued by the brand, but still carries the inner tachymetric scale and outside smooth bezel that are typical of the 1950’s.

 

It is often referred to as “pre Daytona”, as it somewhat a transition from the classical chronographs to the Daytona that was issued in 1963. By the way, both references will coexist for some years in the Rolex catalogue, as we can see on this picture:


   

 

At the beginning of the production, the watch still featured the “classic” dial and hands of reference 6034/6234. Later on, it was fitted for a short time with the type of two color dial that will be used by Rolex on the Daytona some years later. At the end of 1963, the watch finally appeared with a new monochromatic silver or black dial that will be used until the end of the production (with minor variations though).

 

Concerning the case, it is the new 36mm Oyster case that will be used again on the 6239 with the same pushers, crown and plexi:


 

The movement is the Valjoux cal. 72B – identical to the 72A but with a microstella regulation. It will be renamed cal. 722 in 1965.


 

(Photo: A .Shear)

 

My watch has a 1.2 mil serial number, so it was produced circa 1965. It features the silver dial that gives this chronograph a lot of class IMHO.


 

It was originally sold with a 19mm riveted bracelet, but I prefer to wear it on a strap as the silver dial allows a lot of combos:


 

My watch has a caseback engraving showing that it was delivered to the Peruvian Airforce (Fuerza Aerea del Peru).



 

From what we know, around 1000 watches were delivered to the FAP between the early 1960’s and the early 1980’s; they were mostly chronographs, but also some 1675’s and 1680’s.


 

 

These watches feature an issue number engraved very lightly on the caseback, most of the time it’s worn off now. The serial number – or the three last digits for the earliest watches - is also engraved inside the caseback, with the same tool as the engraving between the lugs. To my knowledge, all the 6238 delivered to the FAP are in the same serial number batch.

 

It is remarkable that my watch came out of the FAP with a tachymetric steel bezel. This 6239 bezel was probably fitted in the late 1960’s, as it is easier to read than the scale printed on the dial. In any case, it gives the watch an unusual “6239 albino” look that I find quite attractive and really special !!


I'm not sure yet which bezel I want on my watch ;-)

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A wonderful read, thanks Jeff.

 
 By: TdotBean : January 16th, 2012-05:42
My enthusiasm on the pre-daytonas is always lukewarm. Mostly sustain by the fact they are vintage. Your post give refresh my perspective on these old-timer. Any chance of a comparison or group photo of the pre and current daytonas? Regards Tyler

I have to take that picture at som point Tyler [nt]

 
 By: DrStrong : January 17th, 2012-00:08
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Jeff....

 
 By: Baron - Mr Red : January 16th, 2012-07:29
This is not only a beautiful watch but also an important one too. Like you, I feel the balance of the Daytona is superb. Size, balance and poise. But in this watch you have something extra.....military history. This is a fantastic watch.....i need to see ... 

Thanks my friend ! [nt]

 
 By: DrStrong : January 17th, 2012-00:08
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Stunning

 
 By: Le Monde Edmond : January 16th, 2012-08:01
Simply stunning your watch! I like it much more with the plain bezel (the first one). May it bring you much luck and health for 2012! Edmond

Thanks Edmond

 
 By: DrStrong : January 17th, 2012-00:10
2012 is starting well indeed

What a great catch

 
 By: Bill : January 16th, 2012-08:54
As always a great review and a great catch. You always catch your prey. Wear it in great health Thanks

Merci mon ami ! [nt]

 
 By: DrStrong : January 17th, 2012-00:13
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Handsome find, Jeff.

 
 By: CaliforniaJed : January 16th, 2012-09:55
And it sure looks to be in fantastic condition, considering its age and origin. Thanks for sharing the history of the model. I enjoy seeing watches from the Peruvian Air Force. A friend of mine here in Los Angeles is from Peru. A few years ago I traveled ...  

Wow, I need one !

 
 By: DrStrong : January 17th, 2012-00:15
terrific stuff !

Thanks Jeff. Another great review.

 
 By: watch-guy.com : January 16th, 2012-11:16
Here is mine ......  

Nice one Julian ! [nt]

 
 By: DrStrong : January 17th, 2012-00:17
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Fantastic watch Jeff.....

 
 By: Ross Povey : January 16th, 2012-11:25
and great, informative review! Great issued piece!!! Ross

Mr. Strong that is one damn fine looking watch.

 
 By: grigo : January 16th, 2012-11:40
Thanks for sharing itsnorigines and history with us. Best regards, George

keep it clean!

 
 By: MattS : January 16th, 2012-14:37
that's how it's best IMO! a pure beauty! enjoy! Matt

Thanks for the advice Matt [nt]

 
 By: DrStrong : January 17th, 2012-00:27
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Per-Daytona

 
 By: limth : January 16th, 2012-15:20
A great read on the history and strap combination. I would personally prefer the smooth bezel thou. Thanks DrStrong

So that's another vote for the smooth bezel [nt]

 
 By: DrStrong : January 17th, 2012-00:30
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great review. Thanks for sharing. [nt]

 
 By: Mineral : January 16th, 2012-21:17
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Very nice review!

 
 By: Anatol : January 17th, 2012-00:16
Thank you Jeff for this nice review! I am always fascinated by how different a basic concept appears depending only on little changes: smooth bezel vs. tachy bezel. All silver dial vs. silver with black subdials. With its military background, this 6238 re... 

You're right Anatol

 
 By: DrStrong : January 17th, 2012-00:38
subtle variations can make a huge difference on the way a watch "speaks to you" ! This message has been edited by DrStrong on 2012-01-17 00:40:32

Another superb post, I love reading your posts, and love seeing your collection

 
 By: Miranda : January 17th, 2012-13:10
many congrats on great piece, an on another addition to a truely superlative collection Dr.Strong: Superlative collection, Officially certified (the collection that is ..not you LOL) Best Imran

Thanks for the superlative compliment...LOL [nt]

 
 By: DrStrong : January 18th, 2012-01:00
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wow!!!what a watch.......

 
 By: EdwardL : January 17th, 2012-18:38
Firstly thanks for a great review, always. Congrats on a great catch, what a start to the new year. Its always nice to have an extra bezel, but I orefer the smooth one too. Looks more pre dyto IMHO. Best Ed

Thanks for your vote Ed [nt]

 
 By: DrStrong : January 18th, 2012-00:53
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As a big chronograph fan

 
 By: Ubik : January 18th, 2012-01:19
this is a beauty. A classic elegance that will still look good one hundred years from now.

Classic elegance....right on spot !

 
 By: DrStrong : January 18th, 2012-12:23
and that's not so common for an issued piece !

Fantastic !

 
 By: MdV : January 18th, 2012-04:25
Great review of an, indeed, fabulous watch ! Nice pictures that capture the sheer (sporty) elegance very well. About the bezel: I like it best with the smooth bezel (that is how I had it..;-) ) but must admit the tachy bezel makes it stand out a bit more.... 

Thanks again Mark

 
 By: DrStrong : January 18th, 2012-12:25
For...what you know...;-)

Jeff, how come this watch

 
 By: Guillaume Seventies : January 18th, 2012-09:09
wasn't yet in your splendid collection! Enjoy it my friend. Guillaume

It took some years to grow up on me [nt]

 
 By: DrStrong : January 18th, 2012-12:26
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Great review!

 
 By: mjnoumoff : January 21st, 2012-19:16
Thanks for your report on this new acquisition!

There is something so special...

 
 By: Subexplorer : January 23rd, 2012-15:56
... in these old Rolex chronos! May be it is in their clean dials, with much less inscriptions than in present models... Love its steel case and plain bezel. Lovely piece indeed! Looks so elegant with leather straps! Enjoy in good health Dr. Strong! Kind ... 

Great post...

 
 By: hans_jorgen_1968 : February 1st, 2012-11:56
..on one, if not the nicest pre-Daytona I have ever seen. Great stuff Jeff Best Hans