Theme

Oct 03, 2013,08:19 AM
 

Baron,


Ofcourse I am going to like your collection. Its first class. Not only will 99% of the worlds population never own such a collection because of the monetary
value, but much more importantly  they will not own it because it takes much passion and knowledge to build something like that up. Thats what  I like about your collection. You can tell its thought through. A 5508? Not on the list of most collectors but for me a MUST have in a sub collection!
A 5512 PCG, exclaimation mark- surely only a connoisseur will buy this. And a 6200? Well. What can I say. A dream.

In my opinion though a theme would look different. I would have replaced your non-gilt with a 6505. Then its a theme. Or a 6536 red depth. Or a 5512 Explorer dial. Or 5512 square crown guards. Then its a theme. This is my personal opinion. Maybe it is also because I dont care for ANY submariner with date. No matter how rare. Double red, single red. It all doesn't matter. For me a sub MUST be gilt. Thats my personal taste though. 

Btw it is pretty apparant we have the same taste in subs (except for the non-gilt). wink

Enjoy them!
Edmond
ps: I don't mind waiting. I am very patient. Nicolas is the only person other than myself- who I would love to see own a 6200. He would be a great caretaker for this watch- his passion alone deserves it. So Nicolas can be before me in the waiting line. But I hope I come right after....


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Sub-versive | Vintage Rolex Submariner theme: 6200 - 5508 - 5512 and more...

 
 By: Baron - Mr Red : October 3rd, 2013-03:38
A “theme”. It is something that is mentioned on these forums so frequently. I have a good friend from Sweden who takes his themes very seriously. Not only does a theme often imply getting every version of a particular reference, it also means getting the ...  

Nice theme

 
 By: Le Monde Edmond : October 3rd, 2013-04:04
Firstly a fantastic post with some very very nice watches. My to my taste I have to admit ;) You indeed have covered your submariner bases very well. Your collection includes a very important member of the group. My respect for you to have found such a ni... 

Edmond....

 
 By: Baron - Mr Red : October 3rd, 2013-04:12
.....it is because it is non-gilt that it NEEDS to be there to fit the place of a non-gilt Sub. If i went 4 gilts, I would miss that Red Sub non-gilt...so to my mind it is not an odd choice at all. And of course, there is also a rarity issue running throu... 

Theme

 
 By: Le Monde Edmond : October 3rd, 2013-08:19
Baron, Ofcourse I am going to like your collection. Its first class. Not only will 99% of the worlds population never own such a collection because of the monetary value, but much more importantly they will not own it because it takes much passion and kno... 

Edmond...

 
 By: amanico : October 3rd, 2013-04:31
Don't dream too much on the 6200. I am first on the list, and Joe is not Angelo... ;) Best, Nicolas.

A bigger hint...

 
 By: Baron - Mr Red : October 3rd, 2013-05:07
.....perhaps nobody should dream....could become a nightmare

See message above ;) [nt]

 
 By: Le Monde Edmond : October 3rd, 2013-08:20

6200 and Small Crowns are the top, in my book.

 
 By: amanico : October 3rd, 2013-04:15
An elusive 7922 small crown, and the big sister 7922 ( BC as it also came with a big crown ) or 7924, that would be cool. As well as some other military Tudors, as we are speaking about Subs: 7016 / 94010 M.N, or 7928 CI.... A Seadweller, too, as the SD i... 

SDs...

 
 By: Baron - Mr Red : October 3rd, 2013-05:06
.....an interesting point you make there...yes, i think originally SDs were a part of the Submariner group. But i think over time they have morphed into a reference all of their own...so i excluded them from the theme!

They were!

 
 By: amanico : October 3rd, 2013-06:24
The evidence by the picture: A certain Double Pïnk i had the pleasure to admire... ;) Best, Nicolas ...  

But they became different...

 
 By: Baron - Mr Red : October 3rd, 2013-06:40
......i think Rolex started them out as a part of the Sub tea, but then they developed their own very special personality quite distinct from the Subs. To be honest, I have grappled with this a bit, but I always end up seeing the SDs as a reference to the...  

I think that you did something

 
 By: Ares501 - Mr Green : October 3rd, 2013-05:55
with my sub-conscious :) I'm no longer thinking of GMTs after 3 days Thank you dear Joe (or thank you for another nightmare) :) Mrvelous collection and post.... but what else to expect from man who knows his traffic ;) :) Yours D P.S. So 6200 is stake for... 

Very enjoyable read. although the 6200 of course is very special...

 
 By: DivingT : October 3rd, 2013-06:51
I still must admit that I like the 5508 more, I can't explain why, perhaps I'm just drawn towards small circles on a dial, as opposed to numbers. (and perhaps as I keep missing out on them!! LOL! A good post, and I think I would agree - that is pretty muc... 

Thanks Tony...

 
 By: Baron - Mr Red : October 3rd, 2013-07:42
.....seemed only right that they had their own box. I can see why the 5508 holds so much charm for people....its such an easy watch to love

Fantastic!

 
 By: SALMANPK : October 3rd, 2013-07:07
What a wonderful collection of Subs but the 6200 is the Holy Grail, the Legend for me, one day it shall be mine... Thanks for sharing :-) S

Absolutely stunning !

 
 By: Mike H : October 3rd, 2013-07:11
I am speechless. For a vintage lover as I am, these are definitely THE Subs ! I would however certainly add also a maxi dial one as you mentioned, probably the Mark 3 which is my favourite one (aka lolipop). And apart from the great pictures of these grea... 

Hello dear Joe!! What an interesting point you make...

 
 By: Subexplorer : October 3rd, 2013-08:12
... with this thread!! First I wish to comment about your fabulous collection of Subs. I completely agree that any Rolex collection would not be complete with at least one Sub. You know that I´m a declared fan of Submariners, and that it was the watch whi... 

wise man !!!!

 
 By: marcello pisani : October 3rd, 2013-10:53
"will say that my 5508 has radium on the dial and has not been transitioned to tritium despite the exclam....." ...  

the smiley was obviously....

 
 By: marcello pisani : October 3rd, 2013-10:55
referred to me ... LLOOLLLLLL

Joe, I agree with you

 
 By: Peppo : October 3rd, 2013-13:49
for every single word you wrote, and I think you've just focused the pure essence of the Submariner history. But, and you know there is always a "but", if I should choose a single - iconic - model from the huge Sub's family I will point my finger toward t...  

Fabulous....

 
 By: Baron - Mr Red : October 4th, 2013-00:47
.....and by the way i do agree on the SeaDweller .... but i see SDs as an entirely different branch....almost NOT Subs! Your 6200 is a dream.

glad that ( besides a French guy ) I'm not alone ....

 
 By: marcello pisani : October 3rd, 2013-14:56
after years spent bearing " the geiger brainwashing " ..... to think that the excl. point doesn't mean the use of tritium on indexes .... and how I used to say years ago ... " a Geiger a day takes Marcello away " .... LLLOLLLLL maybe also the damned under...  

Thanks Logan.....appreciated

 
 By: Baron - Mr Red : October 4th, 2013-00:45

Great post, I have always wondered the same thing...

 
 By: ik2000 : October 3rd, 2013-21:00
And superb examples that I think you hit the nail with in terms of themes.... they can be as big or small as you want them to be... great pics, and great examples of each, thanks for sharing, and helping to guide the rest of us!!

Spectacular theme and the watches are all....

 
 By: SteelerFan1965 : October 4th, 2013-02:37
Pristine examples!! Congrats on each one of them as I know all are special.....Cheers,

5508 variations

 
 By: Le Monde Edmond : October 4th, 2013-13:42
Joe & Nicolas, Perhaps you can help. I just came across a 5508 that is a 4-liner. SCOC below submariner also in silver like the meters rating. How rare are those? I have never seen or heard of a 5508 4liner up until now. Thank you for your answers, Ed... 

There are many

 
 By: Peppo : October 4th, 2013-14:03
or, at least, I've already seen some of them during the time. Usually they came from the latter production, let's say 1961/62 (around 700.000 serial). Here is a pic from the net. ...  

thank you

 
 By: Le Monde Edmond : October 4th, 2013-14:54
for your answer. Its how I learn everyday something new! E

1958/1959

 
 By: Le Monde Edmond : October 15th, 2013-11:11
A well known and very respected dealer has a 5508 from 1958/59. Is that something to worry about or could that have been possible in original dial form? Thank you for your help Peppo, Edmond

A picture could help

 
 By: Peppo : October 15th, 2013-23:27
Do you mean a '58/59 four lines ?

Another great post, Baron!

 
 By: blomman Mr Blue : October 5th, 2013-11:59
Themes... And Grails... Been thinking a lot on these topics lately... Will try to share something soon. Best Blomman

top league!

 
 By: MattS : October 20th, 2013-04:49
Dear Joe, Your fab four is fantastic! You already play in the top league! One could not dream of a better choice, not to say that they all are in a spectacular condition. Themes are great in a collection as they allow to bring some focus and consistancy. ... 

Matt...

 
 By: Baron - Mr Red : October 20th, 2013-05:31
....SOOOOOOOO "helpful" Subs are deep in more than one way....some would say a pit!!