A brief look at Bamford & Sons Rolex

Apr 03, 2010,21:02 PM
 

I just received news that the (in)famous Bamford & Sons Rolex watches with PVD coating will be retailed in Singapore. The range includes the Milgauss and Yachtmaster, as pictured, but also extends to the Submariner and other sports models.





The Bamford site allows customers to customise the colour scheme of the watch, so for instance a black PVD Submariner can be ordered with red lettering. That will set one back about 8500 pounds sterling.

These watches are easily regarded as inordinately expensive. They probably are more expensive than they should be, but not as costly as they are seen to be, because careful and professionally done PVD coating is very expensive. For instance, separating the bracelet into individual sub-links and coating them individually, rather than the assembled bracelet as a whole. While the end result may look the same for the most part, the differences are present and noticeable for a very keen eye.

A senior brand executive once told me he tried to get his Submariner PVD treated (he collects many watches other than his own brand) and even with his industry links it would still have cost him several thousand Swiss francs so he declined.

While the cost may be justified, I personally am extremely uncertain if I would paid that amount for what is essentially a superficial cosmetic change. While the look is indeed attractive the cost is a hindrance, as is the fact that it's a non-factory modification, which matters for those who are diehard brand fans. Interestingly, despite their original cost and non-originality, such watches often sell for fairly decent sums at auction.

Bamford first began doing this in 2004 and werely probably the first to do so on a commercial scale. There are now other well known enterprises doing the same thing, like Pro-Hunter for instance. Pro-Hunters does a Sub in the style of the British military submariner, but with a carbon fibre bezel.



Source: Pro-Hunter 

Another is Project X designs which created a sans crown guard Submariner (thinking of what they did to the case is painful). This type of modification is absolutely too extreme for my tastes.



Source: Project X Designs 

Several years ago there was a well known Japanese retailer modifying Rolex sports watches with brightly coloured dials and their watches were often seen in Japanese watch magazines. Rolex took action against them and they stopped doing it, and their redialled Rolex watches have become something of a collectible.

Bamford seems to be doing what it does very contentedly, likely because it is backed by a far larger company than the Japanese store was. In fact its parent is probably as large as Rolex.

Bamford & Sons is run by George Bamford, one of the sons of the founder of British construction and industrial equipment manufacturer JCB which makes them in distinctive yellow and black paint scheme. Bamford & Sons is a London retailer that sells all sorts of high-end products, a combination of Harrods, Barbour and Asprey almost.

File:JCB 532s.jpg

Bamford & Sons will be represented in Singapore by E'Collezione at Mandarin Gallery along Orchard Road.

- SJX

This message has been edited by SJX on 2010-04-03 21:24:16


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As always the question is: Who gives a warranty?

 
 By: amanico : April 3rd, 2010-22:38
Certainly not Rolex! So, if youn live in a country where Bamford and Sons doesn't have an AD ( ) and as Rolex won't accept to service / repair any of these modified watches, who will be in trouble, eeeh? Aesthetically speaking, to each his own, this is Ea... 

Should have no... from rolex

 
 By: Ogygia : April 4th, 2010-09:43
No warranty from Rolex.... Even now, the rolex restrict the parts supply to official dealer for repairing in HK. In past, dealer used an old part to exchange a new part with cost. But rolex was starting to centralize the repair service, and no parts suppl... 

The warranty is from Bamford & Sons.

 
 By: SJX : April 4th, 2010-09:46
Given the mechanical simplicity of Rolex I don't think it is difficult to service. Finding parts will be more challenging but I am sure they are available. - SJX

besides, Rolex is rebust!

 
 By: Ogygia : April 4th, 2010-10:05
keep overhaul every 3-4years can keep all parts running under clean lubricants which prevent the wear and tear from dirty lubricant. So Rolex is a good choice for "mod". But why don't they try to use CVD DLC treatment? I searched on google by "carbon CVD ... 

Can of worms?

 
 By: RoadRage : August 31st, 2010-11:35
I do NOT want to start a battle about prevcentive maintenance. I will say that an authorized Rolex, Blancpain, etc dealer who sponsors here told me that routine maintenance on most mechanical watches is a waste of time and certainly money, unless the watc... 

Happy to dialogue

 
 By: Ogygia : August 31st, 2010-22:45
I would like to say some phenomena... I am living in HK and always traveling to China. I know very well about watch AD, please don't ask me the reason In HK and PRC, most of the AD won't ask customers to overhaul their watches, since ADs sold just TOO man... 

I was very reluctant...

 
 By: DrStrong : April 4th, 2010-01:22
to this kind of things, until I put a first generation Pro Hunter on the wrist...and it is really a killer ! But of course, it seems very "understated" compared to the latest stuff that was realized: only case PVD coating and a Nato strap. Cheers Jeff

I agree

 
 By: SJX : April 4th, 2010-09:47
the "understated" look, as you put it, is very appealing and especially fitting for the type of watch Rolex is. - SJX

Thanks for sharing...

 
 By: Rob : April 4th, 2010-02:26
while the cost is prohibitive, I have a feeling that this will garner more than just curious onlookers when they arrive. Thanks again for the news JX.

Thankyou for the presentation SJ

 
 By: hans_jorgen_1968 : April 4th, 2010-02:59
But for me, it will be a no go. I prefer the watches as they are from the manufacturer. The longest I will go is another strap on a strap watch. If the watch is fitted with a bracelet, than I believe it should stay. Its the same when I play golf, I use th... 

Interesting....

 
 By: MiniCooper : April 4th, 2010-11:12
However I am skeptical regarding non-factory modifications.... But, now I am curious to see them in metal.... Black watches are very trendy today... I wonder how they are going to be regarded in 5-10 years? thanks for posting.... cheers

One not to forget

 
 By: DrStrong : April 4th, 2010-13:22
the Jacques Piccard Deep Sea, a limited edition of 86 pieces: a spectacular watch that I was very happy to discover last year This message has been edited by DrStrong on 2010-04-04 22:58:33...  

What.....

 
 By: MiniCooper : April 5th, 2010-00:08
were your overall impressions vis-a-vis the regular model?.... do you have a wristshot?..... thanks.... cheers This message has been edited by PinkPanther on 2010-04-05 00:09:41

To me, PVD...

 
 By: DrStrong : April 5th, 2010-01:06
- or I should say CVD - suits perfectly to these kind of toolwatches. I don't have a wristshot, but I have tried on the combo with the Nato strap, which is the best to me. I really like the historical context of this watch: the fact that it was issued in ...  

I fully agree....

 
 By: MiniCooper : April 5th, 2010-01:32
regarding the nato strap... the bracelet is a bit too much in my opinion.... but cvd scratches and it is expensive to repair, right? cheers ps great photo

PVD and CVD

 
 By: BDLJ : April 7th, 2010-19:32
...are processes (Physical Vapour Deposition and Chemical Vapour Deposition, repectively) not materials, the 'scratchproofness' will depend on what they deposit on the case, it's thickness, etc. Thanks for posting that coated DeepSea. Not a fan of those, ... 

just like modding one's car

 
 By: Hororgasm : April 4th, 2010-13:57
just like modding one's car. why not?? moreover, its all comestic. AMG kit on a regular E class? Brabus bodykit on a S class? do they only sell brand new PVDed watches? or would they accept a commission on exisitng piece?

Only brand new watches. (nt)

 
 By: SJX : April 4th, 2010-19:38
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Thanks a lot. I saw them this saturday in Paris.

 
 By: foversta : April 4th, 2010-14:07
And also the "Aqua Pearl" Rolex. Aqua Pearl proposes "skeletonized" Rolex, in fact, the dial is opened, not the plate of the caliber. For example, you can see the whole date wheel. Strange. Fr.Xavier

Do you....

 
 By: MiniCooper : April 5th, 2010-00:05
have any photos? thanks cheers

Thank you.....::))

 
 By: MiniCooper : April 5th, 2010-00:47