Modern and Vintage.

Sep 03, 2010,01:26 AM
 


I for one wouldn't create an opposition between the Modern and the Vintage.

First of all, what do we mean by Vintage, here?

Vintage is the contraction of the french " vingt ans d'age ", which means 20 years old.

So, watches till 1990 are to be considered as Vintage?

If yes, a lot of break the opposition between the modern and the Vintage, such as the 16600, 16610, 16700 / 710 / 760, 16 570 and so on.

To me, Vintage watches are up to the early 80ies, and for a Purist, it would be watches which are up to the 70ies, watches with only 4 digit number, such as the 1675, 1680, 5513, 1665 and so on.

We could also say, which will recover this last approach, that Vintage watches are watches which fill a certain number of criterias, such as radioactive indexes ( tiritium or radium ), and a plexy glass, which is, I think the best approach if we want to give a definition of Vintage watches.

But, in this case, a 16 750 ( Transitional GMT from the early 80ies ) would make an excellent exception to the " Purist " definition ...

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That being said, I wouldn't separate the Vintage and the Moderrns, as I often love both of them for different reasons, sometimes for common reasons.

When I see a Yachtmaster, for example, which is undisputably a modern Rolex, I fall in love, because of its great charm, its perfect construction, its great presence, its sublime look.

Same for the Explo II white tritium dial.

When I wear my Rasta Milgauss, I appreciate its madness, its originality, and, like the YM, its quality.

With Vintage watches, I feel their presence, but also their soul.

Soul, it may be what distinguishes more the Modern and the Vintage.

But, here again, I'm not so sure we have to be so sure, because some modern Rolex watches have a lot of soul:

I love both of them, and I'm able to fall for an Explo II Transitional Cream and Rail Dial, as well as for a Daytona Zenith, which both offer a lot of charm, and which both develop a superb patina.

You see, common reasons for both modern and vintage Rolex watches, and, finally, it is not that evident that we have to mae an hermetic separation between them.

Best,

Nicolas

This message has been edited by amanico on 2010-09-03 01:28:53


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Rolex & Rolex.....

 
 By: MiniCooper : September 2nd, 2010-12:06
Rolex is an iconic watch.... Some like it, some do not... It is though on of the most robust watches out there.... However, one could split Rolex into two categories.... Modern... and Vintage... So which Rolex would you prefer... modern or vintage.... rob...  

Absolutely VINTAGE for me.

 
 By: EdwardL : September 2nd, 2010-19:27
And a PN would be my choice.

An....

 
 By: MiniCooper : September 5th, 2010-10:16
iconic choice..... Cheers

Vintage, and moderns

 
 By: Cookies : September 2nd, 2010-19:51
I like all the Vintage series, and the moderns that are likely due to become notable vintages. Some examples I can think about are the pepsi, coke, Cellini prince, turn-o-graph

Very true.....

 
 By: MiniCooper : September 5th, 2010-10:22
moderns will became vintages.... Cheers

Only time will tell

 
 By: grigo : September 2nd, 2010-21:44
I figure that all modern watches eventually become vintage, so both work for me. Best regards, George

Very true... :)

 
 By: MiniCooper : September 5th, 2010-10:25

Vintage no doubt...

 
 By: Reneo : September 3rd, 2010-01:01
1680 for me

A....

 
 By: MiniCooper : September 5th, 2010-10:31
diving classic... Cheers

Modern and Vintage.

 
 By: amanico : September 3rd, 2010-01:26
I for one wouldn't create an opposition between the Modern and the Vintage. First of all, what do we mean by Vintage, here? Vintage is the contraction of the french " vingt ans d'age ", which means 20 years old. So, watches till 1990 are to be considered ... 

Well....

 
 By: MiniCooper : September 5th, 2010-10:51
the word vintage is a victory of the french language over the english one.... Yet the english language twisted it a bit..... So, in a sense, I will agree with you and also define a vintage watch one that dates before the 80s and probably before the 70s...... 

Well...

 
 By: amanico : September 5th, 2010-10:58
One watch for what purpose? To live on a Desert Island? So, it will be a modern one, to avoid any kind of problems. To live in a modern and urban way? In this case, a Vintage GMt, Explo II or Sub... We have to be pragmatic... Even if I detest this kind of... 

Hopefully.....

 
 By: MiniCooper : September 5th, 2010-11:04
you will never be stranded on a deserted island.... Cheers

+30000

 
 By: hans_jorgen_1968 : September 6th, 2010-12:54
Many great thoughts I can only agree on. Vintage or modern. Difficult choice where the true answer always depends... Cheers Hans

Just food for thought, my friend...

 
 By: amanico : September 6th, 2010-13:28
The absolute answer is impossible to give... Relativity has much more charm! Best, Nicolas

My answer is i love them both....

 
 By: Baron - Mr Red : September 3rd, 2010-02:13
but then, when i look at my collection, I find i have virtually no modern and more than one or two vintage. If i had to pick a modern as my favourite, it would be either the Milgauss GV or the Explorer. There can only be one vintage....the "coolest watch ... 

Indeed....

 
 By: MiniCooper : September 5th, 2010-10:56
PN is an icon... Cheers

Thank's Andreas!

 
 By: thomas..m : September 4th, 2010-07:40
I like your 1675, the matching is amazing! Enjoy it! Best regards, Thomas.

Thank you... :)

 
 By: MiniCooper : September 5th, 2010-11:00

vintage

 
 By: Ryan5446 : September 5th, 2010-10:04
for me it is the combination of beauty(looks), soul(the life it has had) and understatement. cheers, S

Soul......

 
 By: MiniCooper : September 5th, 2010-11:06
The charm of the vintage.... Cheers

Imposible amswer

 
 By: hans_jorgen_1968 : September 6th, 2010-13:09
Depends on: -the situation. Casual or work. -traveling or at home -diving or boiling eggs I could go for a platinum day-date, a submariner, a GMT, a Milgauss, a seadweller a OM a (much, careful, my heart ) But if I where to pick one, and o.ly one as my so... 

I love your class, Hans!!!

 
 By: amanico : September 6th, 2010-13:31

But so difficult to find...nice and affordable :-) [nt]

 
 By: hans_jorgen_1968 : September 8th, 2010-13:18
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Very interesting choice.....

 
 By: MiniCooper : September 7th, 2010-09:56
Are you hunting for one? Cheers

Yes :-) [nt]

 
 By: hans_jorgen_1968 : September 8th, 2010-13:19
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Good luck... :)

 
 By: MiniCooper : September 8th, 2010-13:23