It is so good, no wonder they are the benchmark šŸ‘šŸ»

Dec 12, 2023,00:00 AM
 

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Why Patek? I can think of one reasonā€¦

 
 By: Clueless_Collector : December 11th, 2023-23:09
Wearable grand complications, elegant and refinementā€¦.so actually 3 reasons šŸ˜ I have tried other PCCs but none can compete with Patek, just yet. Still in honeymoon. ...  

Itā€™s just perfect. Isnā€™t it?!?

 
 By: gary_g : December 11th, 2023-23:39
Wear it in good health!

Yes it is perfect for meā€¦

 
 By: Clueless_Collector : December 11th, 2023-23:46
Thanks a lot, Gary.

It's a great piece!

 
 By: patrick_y : December 11th, 2023-23:57

As nice a watch as any.

 
 By: vicunaman1 : December 12th, 2023-00:10

Love the 5270.

 
 By: Champthekid : December 12th, 2023-00:59
Glad youā€™re enjoying it so much. It deserves it šŸ˜

Itā€™s a beauty!! Enjoy!

 
 By: edtonkin : December 12th, 2023-02:17
Now you can time your soft boiled egg!

Yes Sir, finally I can eat something good šŸ˜Š

 
 By: Clueless_Collector : December 12th, 2023-02:50
Canā€™t wait to boil 2 eggs with your 5004/5204s šŸ‘šŸ»

Have you had a chance to compare with an AP perpetual?

 
 By: ArmisT : December 12th, 2023-02:36
I feel Patek easily wins against modern AP perpetuals for the reasons you like your PCC. But I wonder about certain historical AP perpetualsā€¦those were really something special. I do wonder how they measure up head to head.šŸ¤”

No and probably never willā€¦

 
 By: Clueless_Collector : December 12th, 2023-02:51
AP doesnā€™t feel Iā€™m worthy of their watches and they can go kiss someone elseā€™s A** I will not give my money to them šŸ‘ŽšŸ» It might sound funny but if I will to own an AP, I will buy them at deep discounts from grey only, no BS.

Admittedly, I know many people have had bad experiences with certain boutiques during the Covid crazeā€¦

 
 By: ArmisT : December 12th, 2023-03:24
which isnā€™t to make excuses. But Iā€™d bet if you approached them now or coming months, the experience would be better, especially at an AP House from what I hear. Still, you are correct that given the normalization trend, you would be able to get exactly w... 

Thank you for your responseā€¦

 
 By: Clueless_Collector : December 12th, 2023-04:21
I used to have my name with a certain boutique but the sales is more associated with rap stars, sports personā€¦was offered the first gen Code which I declined and heard nothing for years. Last year, I visited local west coast boutique and registered my int... 

Before I got this, I was also thinking about the 5270Rā€¦it was on my list of 5270s to choose,

 
 By: Clueless_Collector : December 12th, 2023-05:02
I thought that a grand complication should look grand, no need to hide like a white metal and I like RG tooā€¦.too bad it was sold before I could get to it. Any version of the 5270 is nice, imo. Thank you and I hope your get yours some day!

It bugs me each time I see Grande Complication for a chrono, a perpetual calendar or both... A Grande Complication is the combination of at least a minute repeater ( Grande Sonnerie preferred ), at least a Chrono ( Rattrapante, better ) AND

 
 By: amanico : December 12th, 2023-05:49
A Perpetual Calendar and a Tourbillon... THAT is the definition of Grande Complication. I never understood why Patek felt the need to call the rest grande complication... Best, Nicolas

Sorry Boss, you are clearly on a different leagueā€¦.

 
 By: Clueless_Collector : December 12th, 2023-06:12
For the rest of us peasants, this is the top grand complication, haha. I donā€™t need a minute repeater or tourbillon, no change since many years ago, as I wrote in my POTM self intro, along with few other members, here on WPS šŸ˜¬

Iā€™ve found this definition online, which is just a little less stringent than yoursā€¦

 
 By: quattro_spirit : December 12th, 2023-17:04
Iā€™m personally ignorant on the subjectā€¦ ...  

No it did not....it's a combination of any 3 of those criterias, if I read it correctly. A 5270 has:

 
 By: Clueless_Collector : December 12th, 2023-18:55
Chronograph, Perpertual Calendar, Moonphase etc.

Does it have to be a minute repeater or can another acoustical comp. do the trick?

 
 By: quattro_spirit : December 13th, 2023-08:04
The definition Iā€™ve found on internet says (for what itā€™s worth: once again, Iā€™m really ignorant about this topic): chrono comp. + astronomical comp. (but not necessarily a perp. cal.: it mentions a simple calendar or a moonphase) + acoustical comp. (incl... 

I had this discussion with JLC when they released the Master Grande Tradition Grande Complication, and they agreed that the term Grande Complication was a bit excessive...

 
 By: amanico : December 13th, 2023-08:19
We had private emails about that for the fun of it. And we fell on a classic definition which was at least a chrono, a perpetual calendar and a minute repeater. Some added a tourbillon.

Ok, thanks! šŸ‘šŸ¼

 
 By: quattro_spirit : December 13th, 2023-10:04

Beautiful piece indeedā€¦ a Patek collection without A PC or PCC is never completeā€¦

 
 By: Watches_passion : December 12th, 2023-09:40
I have the P version and i love itā€¦ ...  

That's a nice version and looks like you still haven't wear it since July....

 
 By: Clueless_Collector : December 12th, 2023-17:43
That's unforgiveable, lol...if I have that, I will be wearing it, at least once every week.

Honestly i do wear itā€¦

 
 By: Watches_passion : December 12th, 2023-19:17
But i dont bother to change the date/monthā€¦ this is a watch where the dial makes you forget the rest of the detailsšŸ˜‚

The 5270 is a fantastic watch šŸ‘šŸ¼

 
 By: Watchlover42 : December 12th, 2023-11:03
Even when I have to admit that I'm not a fan of the chin. But hey, there are variants of 5270s out there for almost every individual taste. The 5270G-001 was my choice. Was happy that this is a less attractive version, so I could afford it šŸ˜‰ ...  

Absolutely there is a lot of variants for everyone....

 
 By: Clueless_Collector : December 12th, 2023-18:49
Always 2 sides on a coin, the 5970 only has 5 variants, and you might see someone with same dial, but highly unlikely since only rumored to be only 2800 pcs total production. I don't mind a 5270 and I think mine may be less attractive than your -001, so I... 

For me the Patek PCC is the ultimate. Your 5207 clearly has some DNA from the 1518 which was the first serially introduced PCC of any manufacturer.

 
 By: patekova : December 12th, 2023-14:32
It was introduced over 80 years ago in 1941. Phillips NY watch auction this past weekend by coincidence sold one or more variations of each of the PCCs - 1518, 2499, 3970, 5020, 5970 and 5207. Plus 5004 and 5204. Beautifully photographed and with very wel... 

I saw that auction and man....that 5970R was a nice deal, and confirming 5970P being the more desirable version.

 
 By: Clueless_Collector : December 12th, 2023-18:51
As I explained before, I will leave these 5270 for future generations to appreciate what their ancestor (me) has done for them )

This to me is Patek! šŸ™Œ

 
 By: KCLQMULKU : December 12th, 2023-18:53

Yes it is, to me as well!

 
 By: Clueless_Collector : December 12th, 2023-18:56

Wonderfull, enjoy it to the fullest!

 
 By: Anatol : December 13th, 2023-16:18
Really inspires me to take my 5270 out of the bank again soon! ...  

These blue dials are really nice and tempting tooā€¦

 
 By: Clueless_Collector : December 14th, 2023-00:49
You should enjoy this moreā€¦.glad I save me it from misery and loneliness lol.